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one of the big misnomers that a lot of people have is that we can stretch a muscle you can't stretch a

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muscle that's that's actually physiologically impossible to stretch a muscle and let me clarify let me sort of

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be very clear on that the what allows a muscle to stretch is your signals coming

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from the central nervous system that says to the actin and mein like if you were to for your listeners you know

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picture taking two bags of spaghetti and bringing those ends of spaghetti together so it kind of they overlap each

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other that's acting in my that's how the muscles contract and relax the only thing that allows that muscle to start

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to relax is a signal from your central nervous system if you take a bicep muscle go back to that muscle again it's

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been damaged a little bit it only opens so far you can't stretch your arm right out because the damage in the bicep you

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can take an your other arm or put a weight into it or a pulley and you can force it open what you're doing there is

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you're tearing the muscle fiber the central nervous system is not actively involved in letting go of it so you're

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just tearing it and what'll happen is when you do that I see people doing in the gym all the time I see people doing it in Visio they they

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tear it open it feels good because the natural endorphins come in kills all the pain and they think oh that's great look

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at my arm it goes all the way open they get up the next morning and it's just as tight again and they do this month after month after month so if you really want

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to work with your fascia and you want to really open the body up you've got to allow the central nervous system to be

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an active participant in that movement [Music]

1:36

hello everybody and welcome to True Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada where we take a deep dive into

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information about us you can visit trop canada.com today on the podcast I welcome Cameron mfet now Cameron is an

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osteopathic practitioner who resides and practices in Victoria BC his approach to

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healthcare is based on a fundamental belief that your symptoms are not your root problem but rather the starting

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point to help you express full and Abundant Health today on the podcast we're going to be discussing fascia 101

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what it is why it matters and how it can keep you healthy enjoy the show okay hi

2:28

Cameron welcome back to True Hope cast how are you what is going well oh thank

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you Simon it's good to be back actually uh what's going well the practice is going well life is is going well and I'm

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anxiously excitedly waiting for spring so I've had enough I've had enough a winner yeah we it's always that time of

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year where people start to feel that energy shift and it's quite interesting how we go from that kind of hibernation

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stage and how we so beautifully connected with the seasons and then everyone gets so excited about the the

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springtime and the Heat and the warmth and the fact that we can go outside a little bit more yeah it's a it's a

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interesting energizing time for sure but we we're going to be talking about

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fascia kind of 101 today maybe you've heard of the term fascia people listening there and watching but we're

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going to dive a little bit into more detail there um in regards to what it is why it matters and you know how to keep

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it healthy and why that's important but before we jump into that Cameron do you mind just giving us a little bit of a

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introduction for those people who don't know who you are um to yeah tell us a little bit about that please sure so um

3:35

thank you so my name is Cameron mopet I've been an osteopathic practitioner now for over 30 years uh I have a

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background in marathoning and Triathlon and I've been studying martial arts for again about over 30 years now

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so um when Simon asked me to talk about fashion I was really excited about that because in all those Endeavors I just

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mentioned including even just becoming an osteopath and using my brain cells your fascia has a huge influence in all

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of this and it's it's one of those tissues that people just don't talk about when I was in training in school in the anatomy they more or less just

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cut the fascia away and said ignore it look at the muscles look at the organs um but now the current research is

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really indicating that fascia is hugely important way more important than was it was given um credit for maybe two

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decades ago and it's funny that with um with kind of with conventional alpath

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medicine the funny you talk about the cutting that away and don't worry about it it's not that important and then

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years later we find out that it's a very vital important part of our our biology

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I mean why would it be there if it wasn't functional and didn't have a purpose right so exactly exactly that's

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that's a very important point right off the top that we should certainly cover but let's start with the basics here like you know what exactly is fascia and

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why is it important to you our over overall health okay well if anybody's

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ever looked at a piece of meat like a steak and you see that white lines between the Reds the red meat

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those red lines white lines are in fact actually the fascia one of the big misconceptions people have is they think

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fascia is on the outside of the body and acts like an envelope and that's not quite accurate uh another way to look at

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fascia is if you were to picture a sponge with all of its holes sponge is

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full of all kinds of holes the sponge would be the fascia and the holes are where we put the body parts but we don't

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take like your Bice muscle in your arm as an example we don't take the whole bicep and just put it into one hole we

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take a little sliver of the bicep and put it into one hole another little sliver into another hole etc etc until

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eventually that area of the sponge we just arbitrarily call it the the uh biceps muscle if you wanted to take the

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bicep muscle out of the body or out of that sponge you've got to cut a whole bunch of that sponge or the fascia with

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it so fascia really is the the very intrical tissue that supports and holds

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on to and and keeps everything in your entire body in its place uh fascia is so

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tough that when fascia and a bone go at war with each other if they're out of balance the fascia will actually tear a

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piece of bone apart that's what's called um often known as shinsplints shinsplints are where usually it's

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runners or people using their their legs incorrectly the fascia gets so tight that it actually pulls a piece of the

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tibia right off a shin splin and it's quite quite serious but on the other hand fascia has to be so flexible and so

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mobile that allows us to raise our arms or move our bodies when your fascia tightens up you are not moving your arm

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or your body so fascia is is really important

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and like I mentioned earlier it's often ignored especially in um not even in allopathic medicine but in many of the

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the physical therapies uh people tend to kind of bypass the fascia which is not

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not correct and what's actually what's actually made of I think I think that's

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obviously an important piece in regards to how you would potentially um nourish

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and also how you would treat it if you were looking to um you work with the the fact that it needs to be flexible it

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needs to have that elasticity to it so what's what's the actual construct okay

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I'll answer your question a second but I'll kind of come around a bit of a circle think of fascia as another way as

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uh you know the Saran Wrap we use to cover up our food imagine a layer of Saran wrap a layer of water water a

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layer of Saran wrap a layer of water Etc sometimes hundreds and thousands of layers the Saran Wrap is the fashion the

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fascia is made of collagen that's the connective tissue but the water in between the two layers and multiple

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layers of the collagen the water is what gives the the collagen or the Saran wrap

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the ability to Glide and move so when we're talking about fascia we're talking about the collagen but we're also

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talking about a really important part of that is the hydration of the fascia and when you talk about the hydration you've

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got to look at whether or not that hydration is clean so you can have lots of hydration in there but it becomes

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very dirty then it's almost like throwing some sand into the um the the

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water that cools your you know the motor of your car or the the grease in the axles of of cars that fascia that fasal

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water has to be um clean as possible and then that means you have to then look at

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your liver and your kidneys those two organs are are major detx ification

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systems of the body and if the liver and the kidney are kidneys are not doing their job they're going to dump those

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extra toxins somewhere and the kidney always deals with water-based toxins and the liver

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always deals with oilbased toxins fat-based toxins so the the kidneys are going to if they get overloaded the

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kidneys are going to start to dump some of those toxins water-based toxins into the biggest source of water and that's going to be the fascia oh interesting a

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really good example that is let's say somebody goes away for a week they go down south go to an all-inclusive and then they they drink way more alcohol

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than they normally do they come home two weeks later they've got a sore back or their their neck is bothering them or

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they notice that their their shoulders are not quite moving the same way they can't raise their arm as much that's an

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example where the kidneys have gotten overloaded from the alcohol can't handle that the toxicity so they start dumping

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the byproducts these poisonous byproducts of alcohol back into the water systems of the fascia and now the

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fascia is starting to basically get kind of gooey uh you remember when when you were a kid and you made uh maybe your

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parents made you Jello-O yeah when you first made it the Jello-O is nice and slippery and you can barely pick it up

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it's so slippery right but leave that Jello-O on the countertop for a day uncovered now you've got basically a

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hard Gunk of piece of goo um that's what fasion becomes when it becomes toxic

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when the water becomes toxic becomes gooey sticky so now you can't raise you can't move your body the same way

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because it's basically again that's that sponge scenario I mentioned earlier has now

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become dehydrated or dehydrated and toxic so we've got these layers of faser

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and faser is can you just give me some examples is it is it surrounding muscle is it surrounding organ is it

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surrounding bone like where are the where are we finding this because I imagine if you were to look at the all

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of the fascia of the body and laid it out flat it would be extensive it's like

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when you talk about the the lining of the digestive tract and it's like a couple of tennis courts like what's the

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any idea in regards to like how much um connectiv how much collagen of the

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fasion we're talking about here you know I don't know if anybody's everever actually measured it but I can tell you this there's nowhere in the body there

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is not fashion there's nowhere so um as an example we have a uh Tom Myers was a

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guy that um he was a I believe he was a physiologist he did quite a bit of

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extens of kadab studies on fascia and what he found was that there were certain concentrations of fascia in the

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body so he laid out these basic lines where the fascia is the most concentrated and there's maps you can

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buy of his now that are quite useful in treating but there's a a line of fascia that goes from your forehead all the way

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along the back of your head all the way down your back through your back through the buttocks down the back of the legs

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goes around the Achilles tendon the Achilles tendon basically is just a whole bunch of fascia that was in sheath in your leg

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that now gets wrapped up into like a tube 10 is just a bunch of fashion so then it goes around the your heel and

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goes and attaches to the very base of your toes that's just one line that goes all the way along there's also

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corresponding front lines that go from the forehead all the way down through the lungs all the way through all the

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visceral organs in the body down the front of the legs down through the knee again that that patellar tendon that

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tendon you have at the bottom of your kneecap that big that gnarly thing you have down there that's that's just

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basically fascia that has been concentrated into a very distinct area and we call it a tendon tendons are just

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basically fascia and that fascia goes all the way down so when you ask me where is it it's everywhere yeah you you

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can't go anywhere in the body and not bump into fascia because go back to that scenario of the sponge the sponge is the

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fascia anytime you poke in the body you're poking into the sponge of the fascia immediately it's on the surface

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is also right down um one of the recent studies has more or less proven that the

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cells wall is a form of specialized fascia every single cell and there's 60

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trillion cells in our body every single cell is wrapped around it with a the

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wall is is fascia so fascia is everywhere yeah just looking at that Tom

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Meers um image and I I'll add a link in the show notes because it's a very beautiful imagery in regards to it and I

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think if you can imagine if you're listening when you look into like an anatomy 101 textbook you'll see like

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this circulatory system which is usually I think white sorry yellow and then you'll see the nervous system is in blue

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the circulatory system in red you see these maps of the body there is clearly one for fascia here and it and it is all

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over the place you know it's connective it crosses the body multiple ways and as you say it goes absolutely everywhere so

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that's very very cool that we've actually got this a little bit more of an understanding about what is faser and there other people talking about this

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because yeah it sounds like the uh Al apathic model is not not caught up as much as it could could be and it sounds

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like there could be many common issu many common issues people are walking around with that is down to a fascial

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problem exactly um to name a couple planter fasciitis which is um a type of

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symptom when people get out of bed in the morning and it feels like they're walking on glass um plantra fasciitis fasciitis

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just means inflammation of the fascia Planters the bottom of your foot uh that's a really common one and again you

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can treat Tre the fascia in that little area and try to work it and try to loosen it up and try to heal it and put

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yourself on anti-inflammatories etc etc but again like I mentioned that line of fascia goes from your toes through the

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arch of the foot around the heel and all the way up to the front of your forehead so to treat the fascia in one very

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select area is very um shortsighted you have to treat the whole line and because

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because that line and particularly that line goes right by and wraps around the kidneys with plant fasciitis the first

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question I always ask myself when someone comes in the office with this is how toxic are they where is the toxic

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load coming from and why is it being dumped into the feet um one one of the

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things your listeners could try doing is if you were to take your left hand and actually grab a hold of your whatever

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you're wearing in the way of a shirt grab a hold of your shirt some you try this as well grab grab some of the uh

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yeah take your left hand and just grab your your um shirt on the right side right around your right around the

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bottom of your rib cage get a good Fistful of it and tighten it right up now try try raising your right arm go

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ahead and try raising your right arm you'll notice how you just not you can't raise it right right now let go of the shirt all of a sudden the arm comes up

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frozen shoulder which is commonly seen more with women especially per menopausal women um than any other group

15:20

frozen shoulder used to be called adhesive capsulitis it turns out that's not true at all because there's no adhesions within the capsule of of the

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shoulder what it is it's a hormonal problem that has come about because the

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liver is not functioning properly and the fascia is becoming intoxicated and

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um locks up that whole region in the in the Soma the the thorax the fascia tightens up so much that that the poor

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little deltoid muscles which aren't really that strong of a muscle can't raise the arm enough because the FAS is pulling back down on it so when anytime

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you anytime you have a dysfunction in the body uh particularly when it's a mechanical dysfunction um you've really

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got to look at the fact yeah it makes so much sense because I I 100 when I when I when I play a lot of

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soccer in the summer seasons here in BC I certainly get that PL of fas and it's

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usually after a game it's in one foot and it is like walking in glass and it's brutal and and I've never really thought

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about it being like a fasal issue especially like you're going to put your

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attention on where the pain is and that's kind of like what we initially do which you know would make sense but what

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we don't really have a good concept of is you know if I've got pain somewhere

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in my body we only focus on that particular area we might not think

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beyond that bone or that muscle or that part of you which is which is it which

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is I guess it's natural that we obviously have those those we have the sensory pain that we were actually going

16:52

to experience so we're going to be um focused on a very particular area but if you look within medicine as well we have

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like Specialists for everything we have like a we have like doctors for fingers we have doctors for wrists we have

17:05

doctors for elbows they don't really look outside of their scope so when you're talking about like planta

17:10

fasciitis in my foot I have to be looking at like a whole body whole body

17:16

experience I have to be looking back at you know my hydration levels and it's

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just interesting that we we get so myopic in in that view of that that that one reductionist idea that we don't like

17:28

take that step back and look at all of the things that make make us up and how these things are beautifully connected

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within our bodies exactly and that that's where um I know I'm biased I admit that but that's where osteopathic

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um therapy really is very it's very good at doing that stepping back I used to

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teach uh um at a couple colleges and I was always trying to get the students to

17:51

you know the the human the brain wants to immediately come up with a solution and as a clinician you've got to step

17:57

back from that initial assumption you're making well this this is probably this step back and ask a lot more questions

18:03

and basically try to prove yourself wrong in that first assumption and if you can then you're on to something else

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you know a good example of planter fasciitis a couple years ago I had a person come in who all of a sudden it

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flared up and there was no real reason why nothing had changed much they had Chang their diet but what after

18:19

extensive questioning what had happened was they'd had two uh root canals done and at the back of their back of

18:27

their MERS um and the the um tissue of the tongue when

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you're developing as an embryo comes from C1 C2 and your in your spine those

18:38

tissues migrate forward and become the tongue so they're intrinsically linked together so the having the jaw open for

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I think it was two hours twice in this root canal process had basically spasmed

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all the the tissue at the back of the throat and the back of the tongue and had pulled C1 C2 slightly out of

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alignment well again the fascia remember that C1 and C2 the first and second

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vertebrae in your neck they're inside the fascia they're not outside they're inside it so the fascia now had gotten

19:08

distorted a little bit and remember that fascia goes from your forehead all the way down your back and all the way around to the back through the arch of

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the foot that's where the plant fastis was coming from that's what the body was feeling the pain but the problem was in

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c1c2 and also I had to go in and release some of the muscles in the jaw and that allowed the tension to release the C1 C2

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and that they were fine within two treatments that's amazing and yeah I'll just plug your plug there that I've sent a couple

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of people to you to to your clinic in Victoria who have had back pain on and off for like decades and working with a

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practitioner that's not only just looking at fascia but looking at the whole body rather than let's just say like a chiropractor who might just be

19:47

looking at alignment which is obviously very important but and releasing areas of the spine and creating that yeah that

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alignment that straightness which is know it has its place for sure but I've never I've never really experienced the

20:01

type of relief that I think that I'm going to get from something like Chiropractic work because I'm focusing way too much on that particular area

20:07

that's causing me discomfort whether it's like my neck or my shoulders rather than thinking of that like that that

20:13

whole picture so yeah I completely agree that that the um that holistic aspect

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and just being able to have a Viewpoint where you're not necessarily just like super homed in on that one particular area and to have a practitioner that

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understands the body understands the fascia you know I don't think a lot of people who will be listening to this or a lot of people who go and see not just

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Al apathic practitioners but also you know holistic um alternative practitioners as well might not have the

20:41

understanding yet of you know what the fascia is and how impactful it is to the body and how super connected it is everywhere and I just we've touched on

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on a few you know I think most people think that fascia is just this passive

20:54

connective tissue but research youve spoken about certainly suggests it plays

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a heavily active role in the body and we've talked about a few of the other

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functions um Beyond just kind of holding things together um and you've mentioned

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about like cell walls we have trillions of those and how involved faser is and

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the connective tissue of um that we have obviously collagen is the primary um component of fascia and we have collagen

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all over the body are there any other like key roles in which fascia plays

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plays a part in the body I'm glad you asked that question um yeah the one of

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the things that is commonly accepted now in most of the sematic trauma therapy is

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that the issues are always in the tissues yeah they now know that the fascia out of all the types of tissues

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in the body the fascia is um the one type of tissue that has the ability to hold actual memories within the

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tissue so when when somebody who is skilled in working in fascia starts to release the

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fascia a lot of times many many times emotions come up if someone's been

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involved in a traumatic accident um and they they happen to see the accident when it was happening so they were

22:14

consciously aware like oh my goodness I'm about to get hurt yeah in inside the tissue that got hurt there will be a

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memory of that I'm being hurt and it will come out as an emotion it won't come out just as I mean it will be also

22:27

increased blood flow you know might be even a fever etc etc but it will come out with tears anger rage Etc when I

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work with people with mvas uh motor vehicle accidents I always ask them especially if they happen to know they

22:40

were about to get hit how angry are you you know are you feeling any anger no no

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I'm not angry at all well then that's not there's anger in there there's going to be anger in that body anger fear

22:51

Terror something is going to be in there so the fascia has a direct and also indirect um influence on our mental

22:58

States you know from a very simplistic way of looking at it if you take an organism and you reduce the blood flow

23:05

you take a person and you reduce their blood flow you reduce the body's ability to eliminate toxins out of the body that

23:12

body no longer is at its Optimum and what that does and it starts to put a

23:17

bit of a drag on the person you get up in the morning it's like oh I gotta go do another day again or you get home at the end of the day it's like oh my

23:23

goodness I'm exhausted you do that enough you know week after week after month after month that person is not

23:28

experiencing Joy they're also not experiencing and they're not sharing with the people around them that they

23:34

love the same level of commitment the same level of hey I love you I'm I'm happy to be here that plays on the

23:40

mental um um aspects of the person as well well I remember reading about um I

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think it was Dr emoto's work on on water and how um water can be re it can react

23:54

to negative words emotions um even chaotic shapes there's some fascinating

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research within that and if you're our understanding of of vasher that it's made up of these layers of collagen and

24:06

water collagen and water collagen and water you expand that across the whole human body that's a whole lot of water

24:12

that's kind of like encapsulated within us and when we're talking about the

24:17

body's trauma response in regards to where it would store that trapped energy

24:23

it's got to go somewhere right and a lot of people especially in a car accident or something traumatic happened happening to them where they're in a

24:30

situation where they can't actually process it being a car accident or maybe when they're younger and they don't have

24:35

the um psychological development to actually go through what that what's actually happening to them makes a lot

24:40

of sense to me that a lot of that would get trapped in these in in in the the water within the tissues and there's

24:46

obviously there's water absolutely everywhere so that makes that makes so much sense and yeah we we've had some amazing sematic practitioners on the

24:53

show that that have discussed a few of these things but not yet kind of had that connection regards to um trauma and

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faser and having those um issues within the tissues yeah I love

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that that's great I know a lot of trauma therapists are now starting to incorporate into their practices

25:12

movement therapy um solely for the purpose like you mentioned about bringing bringing the emotions out of

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the fascia um there I should just do a little um plug here for uh two groups of

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people that are or two groups of um therapists that are quite skilled in fascia is the U they're called rers um

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raling was named after Ida Ral she was the woman that invented sort of the the very systemic way of working systematic

25:39

way of working on fascia of California in 1970s so rers are one group the other group is uh people that practice

25:45

something called structural integration they're very similar uh they all work on fascia and both of them work on a series

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either of 10 sessions or I think 12 sessions is the other group but I've gone through that um those sessions um

25:59

myself and it fundamentally changed how I run I mean like I mentioned I've been running marathons I don't run marathons

26:06

anymore but I still run on a on a weekly basis and I noticed about halfway through the the 10 sessions uh my

26:14

running style got terrible like it really changed and I called the person up I said hey what have you done to me

26:19

like I'm not running as well as I used to and in her wisdom she said you know just hang in there uh let it reintegrate

26:25

and sure enough after session six I was running much more gracefully much more uh much more efficiently as well so I

26:32

actually improved in my running capabilities so those two groups are really skilled in working on fascia um

26:38

if anybody's looking at wanting to do a a really deep dive into getting their

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fasia open and you know anyone that's had any so who would be appropriate for this if you're a woman you've had a

26:49

C-section hands down right away that is a a big red flag your fascia has to be

26:54

worked on if you've ever broken a bone you know the amount of kinetic energy it takes to break a bone everybody focuses

27:01

on the broken bone you get the cast and then they H the cast off and the way you go but that amount of energy to break a

27:06

bone can you only imagine what it's doing to the tissue yeah and that often gets ignored and then two years later

27:13

three years later the person is not moving you know they're not playing tennis as well anymore or they're not

27:18

any of their physical Pursuits they want to do they're not able to do it anymore they think oh it's because I broke my bone well yes but it's also because the

27:24

fascia was never addressed and there has to be there has to be a ripple effect to

27:30

something like that where the actual I broke my shoulder when I was 20 playing soccer um and there has to not just

27:37

obviously where the Bone's Broken But there has to be a ripple effect of that energy going through other parts of the bone other parts of the muscle other

27:43

parts of the fascia that's going to extend beyond the actual break itself right

27:49

and yeah it just only makes sense to me that you'd have you have to look at the

27:54

surrounding well the whole body essentially but also the especially the around in tissue not just like focusing

28:00

exclusively on the on on the tear or the break exactly um that's a good point to mention Simon about let's use use an

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example so uh you mentioned you broke your left clavicle was it my right clavicle yeah oh your right your right

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clavicle so when the energy comes in whatever it was person's head or ball or whatever it was it came in there's an

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amount of kinetic energy that comes in it breaks the bone but that energy keeps traveling through the body until it hits the far wall in that case that would be

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the opposite be your scapula your shoulder blade and there that energy bangs into the scapula and causes also

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damage and then verber Ates back towards you again bounces back the same way so you get this this bounce effect and as a

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therapist you have to know okay which that's why I always ask how did you fall where did you hit because the opposite

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side of the body has been taking a big brunt of that that kinetic energy and that has to be addressed as well yeah I

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mean it still bothers me sometimes now like if I'm going to lift weights like heavy weights like my right side will

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give out weight quicker than my left side so I've never really done any particular work to deal with it so I

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imagine even though even though it happened 20 years ago I very strongly believe there's things I could do right

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now that could actually like help regain rest strengthen and loosen up that area you work on that fascia you know get

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somebody who who's skilled in getting around all of that all that fascia around the clavicle around your neck you

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know around because your lungs don't forget your lungs if you take your fingers and you push them you push them right up the top of your clavical right

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there that's the top of your lungs right there yeah right so that that plura is uh yeah the plura around the lungs

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extends from the top of your lungs big bag all the right we on the lungs comes right down to the bottom of your diaphragm and attaches right into your

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diaphragm so there's that connectiveness right there you got you know damage up here on the clavicle impacts on the

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plura wraps around the lungs goes down to the diaphragm the diaphragm is a big massive piece of fascia and then on and

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on it goes I can keep I can keep drawing you lines of connections from the diaphragm to the liver to the spleen all the way down through so if you got

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somebody who knows how to work on that it won't be one session but they if they're skilled enough they'll work

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probably from you know your P this all the way up through your neck to the top of your head to release just from that one single impact beautiful um I'd love

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think about the um under care the under maintenance of our fascial tissues and

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obviously the nourishment aspect as well you know it's a it's an an alive organism with biochemical reactions

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happening all the time things need to come out of there that need to get eliminated things need to come in there that need to repair um what do you think

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the connections between like chronic health conditions and FAL

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disregulation that's a really good question um thanks you're welcome and so

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anything chronic let's talk about what chronic means for a minute our cells

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through the through the DNA in the cells our cells are constantly constantly trying to

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self-regulate into some sort of balance that's what they're wi they can't wake up one day and say you know what I don't

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think I'm going to work today I'm going to go off and just do something goofy there's always a reason why the cells can't self-regulate so when when people

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talk about chronic when I think of chronic that's that's where the cells have become so disregulated they can't

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get back to balance anymore so then you've got to look at okay what's causing that that imbalance and that

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inability to to regain that balance the fascia plays a big part in almost anything that's chronic because again

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you know the FAS is the fascia is because it's everywhere it's also wrapping around all of your arteries all

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of your veins all of your lymphatics and as you know the lymphatic system is basically the garbage collectors of the body and so when the fascia starts to

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tighten up the stort get too loose um think of somebody who's carrying an extra 20 or 30 pounds in the front of

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their belly that fash is now stretched right out of shape and it's no longer doing its job of holding the organs in

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the right place so the organs are now shifting a little bit from that pole or think of somebody who um maybe

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uh has been drinking maybe too much alcohol or eating too much highly processed foods let's let's go there for

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a second you know if you're eating highly processed foods Ultra refined Foods that's putting such a level of

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toxicity into your system that your living your kidneys are not going to handle it there's just no way these are these are I don't even want to call them

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Foods actually these are chemicals that have been engineered in a laboratory to mimic foods and to trick your brain into

33:30

thinking you want to eat more of them and so when the body is just not used to that doesn't know what to do with them so those things start to build up a lot

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of level of toxicity and in all those scenarios I just described they essentially put a really big heavy load

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on the cells something is going to become chronically uh out of balance you I

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don't even like the word disease like people come in and say to me oh I have um I have MS or I have um IBS I had

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somebody in the office just recently say I've got sibo as small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and I looked at

34:03

this person and I said don't take this the wrong way but I don't believe in sibo I believe in the symptoms that

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you're experiencing I get that they're real but that label of sibo that's just a silly label what does that mean

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anyways back to your original you know your original question was yes anything that's chronic will have an element

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where the fascia is definitely involved absolutely involved and then the problem is once the fascia gets distorted what

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can a person do about that right it's it's great to get on you know the the the remedies that you're mentioning the

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the nutrients that you've got in true hope they'll help a lot any of those types of things will help immensely to get the body back into balance

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physiologically but if the fash is out of balance and distorted it'll just keep throwing it out of balance you know so

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the question is what do you do about that yeah you made me think of um the milein sheath there in regard to our

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nervous system kind of wrapped around the nerves and when that becomes that that wrap that that uh that rapper that

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you were talking about with the um with the faser around everything once that M and sheath or

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that FAS or rapper becomes damaged or rigid or you know whatever

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dysfunctional this the the structure or the organ within that is with inevitably

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going to suffer and we obviously see funny enough you mentioned Ms and in the myin sheath there but it makes a lot of

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sense that you know you could see systemic issues all over the body considering how heavily involved the um

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the fascia is all over the place and there's organs wrapping around all of it there's arteries there's nerves it's

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it's so it's so extensive that you can't not have a fasal practice in your life

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it sounds like to me like I thought the fascia was hugely important before we had this conversation but now it's like

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I clearly need to have some tools in my locker to be able to make sure that I'm

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I'm I'm 40 years old I'm not getting any younger I still like to be very active

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um so I only I have to be working with these tissues that are certainly going

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to you know they're going to get less I don't want to say quality but as I get

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older that's just the way it goes right these these these aren't going to be functioning like I was when I was 20 I'm not going to have that recovery well

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hold on for a second be careful with that whole um idea that as we age we get we get worse that's actually not true

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okay um you can you can be 80 years old and still be bouncing around with lots of Vitality the problem is that most of

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us collect way too many toxins as we age and that ages us yeah um so I'm I'm

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really working on the idea that I'm 66 now I plan on being 86 and still out

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running in the in the mountains behind my uh on on the island here um trail running I I plan on still practicing my

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martial arts and I think it's quite possible as long as we like you said address the fashion and keep everything

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mobile and and moving so that that kind of leades into the the part that I'm really excited about of this of this

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chat assign is what can someone like yourself do at home yeah yeah I'll come around I'll

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come around that in a second let me just segue into this by saying um one of the big misnomers that a lot of people have

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is that we can stretch a muscle you can't stretch a muscle that's that's actually

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physiologically impossible to stretch your muscle and let me clarify let me sort of be very clear on that the what

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allows a muscle to strch stretch is your signals coming from the central nervous system that says to the actin and mein

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like if you were to for your listeners you know picture taking two bags of spaghetti and bringing those ends of

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spaghetti together so it kind of they overlap each other that's acting in my that's how the muscles contract and

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relax the only thing that allows that muscle to start to relax is a signal from your central nervous system if you

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take a bicep muscle go back to that muscle again it's been damaged a little bit it only opens so far you can't

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stretch your arm out because the damage in the bicep you can take an your other arm or put a weight into it or a pulley

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and you can force it open what you're doing there is you're tearing the muscle fiber the central nervous system is not

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actively involved in letting go of it so you're just tearing it and what'll happen is when you do that I see people

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doing the gym all the time I see people doing in Visio they they tear it open it feels good because the natural

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endorphins come in kills all the pain and they think oh that's great look at my arm it goes all the way open they get up the next morning and it's just as

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tight again and they do this month after month after month so if you really want to work with your fascia and you want to

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really open the body up you've got to allow the central nervous system to be an active participant in that movement

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what I mean by that is you take the whatever it is let's say your back is stiff you bend forward or whatever kind

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of stretch you're going to do and you only go to the range where you start to feel that stiffness you and you stop

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there and you stay there and you breathe deeply breathe breathe breathe and

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what'll happen eventually is the central nervous system is going to go oh look at that we're safe here this feels okay why

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don't we let some of this actinomyosin stretch out a little bit and it'll creep and you'll notice after 30 seconds or a

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minute that you're now not feeling the same tension that you created by the initial movement you think oh okay let

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me go forward a little bit more and you go forward just enough that you re-engage into that feeling again and

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again you stop and you breathe now I've been I've been using this methodology for decades both in my

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own personal life and practice and recently about eight months ago I started practicing yoga and as I'm

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practicing yoga the first four or five classes I was following all over the place but eventually I got to the point

39:37

where I could actually feel the movements I thought my goodness this is the same kind of stretching that I've been talking about in my practice yoga

39:44

is a very good example of mindfully moving the body slowly with breath

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through a way that actually honors the Integrity of the body so someone like yourself at home Simon before you go U

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play a game of soccer or after particularly afterwards if you were to get on the floor and just start

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stretching your body and don't make it complicated just stretch your body wherever you feel any of the stiffness

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any way you want stretch it out but don't overstretch it move it into the place of resistance and breathe yeah now

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you're working now you're working with bascia I like that and I've I've got an example in regards to what you're

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talking there about um the nervous system understanding that it's safe in a

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in a place where you might think it's not and to hold it there and breathe like I i' I've started to do a lot more

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um a lot more hip work a lot more glute work a lot more hamstrings that's just you if I stretch those I don't have any

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back pain and I've been listening to this really great guy from the UK I think his name is Tom meric but he's got

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a really great YouTube channel for all sorts of incredible stretches and I'm

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doing a session like a follow along video with this with this guy on YouTube just to my just just at home and he says

40:53

he'll say like just before we do this exercise you're likely going to feel cra and whenever I would feel cramp I would

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just like move immediately out of the um the movement and just stop but he was

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explaining that like you know that that that cramp that you might feel you know you kind of need to the best way to do

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is to like breathe with it and be with it and and allow your body your central nervous system to recognize that it is

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safe in that area and it needs to be able to kind of just like let go I'm not

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saying you're going to have a full extension of whatever you're doing or full flexion but it's important to have

41:29

that conversation kind of with your central nervous system to not immediately react to the pain or the cramp and to just to avoid doing it but

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that's probably an area in which you could focus on exactly yeah yeah exactly now now that you know that that fascia

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in your hamstrings and your back is all connected from the top from the toes all the way to your forehead then you start

41:48

to incorporate some other stretching like maybe rolling you know rolling into a bit of a ball laying on your back and

41:54

bringing your knees up bringing your head forward and just you know breathing into that kind of overall um Tom Meyers

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chain of fascia start stretching it out as well and if you were to approach it that way I would be really surprised to

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hear that you know in in within a month your hamstrings are not going to be as tight right if you focus just on the

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hamstrings you're only focusing on one small part of that fashion where if you were to focus on the whole line then you

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then you're really GNA open yourself up oh 100% with my like lower back my left lower back basically from carrying two

42:26

kids you know 5-year-old and a three-year-old and my three-year-old is like 46b he's ridiculously heavy and

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he's been heavy forever so I feel it on my left side of my back but if I and but if I just stretch my hamstrings it

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doesn't do it if I just stretch my um quads or my carves it doesn't do it I have to stretch I have to I have to do

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all of it I have to do all of it for the back to be able to let go and release because obviously everything's so

42:50

interwoven and connected that that that kind of has to has to happen and I'm just being um I'm just being cautious

42:56

with the time here I we got to keep it under a certain limit here cuz I know you got to get going here but I want to

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make sure that we provide some good practical tips here for our listeners um

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who who are certainly connecting with what we're talking about here they might not know that they've specifically got a

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fasal issue but there's sure I'm sure there are some things that they can be doing at home or even maybe you can

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recommend how to find a good fasal practitioner or an astropath practitioner um but maybe you can just

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start with maybe some practical tips for people that they can literally do today okay so the biggest one of course you

43:29

mentioned this you alluded to this at the beginning of the session was um hydration now the problem with hydration

43:35

is as you mentioned also if you don't have the minerals in your body to absorb those that water then you are just going

43:41

to be passing that water right through yourself um if you find your somebody who drinks water and within 10 or 15 20

43:46

minutes you're urinating it out again that's a really good indicator that you're missing some minerals so this is

43:51

where you know the true hope um chelated minerals comes into effect that would help um something really simple is to

43:58

take a couple grains of um unrefined sea salt put a couple grains under your tongue when you get up in the morning

44:04

and drink a big glass of water slowly and sip it and let that salt dissolve under your tongue that will also Supply

44:10

minerals uh and can help you to hydrate up so staying hydrated is obviously the really important thing um staying away

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from things that dehydrate you so coffee first thing in the morning when you get up is disastrous for your fascia not

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only does it dehydrate you but it also releases a huge amount of adrenaline and cortisol into your system coffee does

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not give us energy coffee gives us large amounts of adrenaline and cortisol most often at the inappropriate time of the

44:35

day and that's first thing in the morning so that's something else is something could do move your coffee intake from right away in the morning to

44:41

about an hour after you've gotten up and in the meantime have yourself a big glass of water whether it's warm water

44:46

or don't don't do cold water but warm water or room temp water that's one thing and then the other thing is start

44:52

looking at your if you don't have a stretching routine there's a problem right there so you need to um even if

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you're somebody who doesn't do any particularly Active Sports but like you said if you're if you're a parent that's carrying a child around on your hip or

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you're somebody that goes buys groceries and you got to carry their groceries home you want to make sure that you stretch your body out you know whether

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that's something that's coordinated like going to yoga or Tai Chi or Kang or whether it's just getting on the the

45:17

living room floor at the end of the night and going through some very simple basic movements with your breath nice

45:23

and gentle and slow and stretching the body out if you do that every night within within a week or two you're going

45:31

to also start changing your sleeping patterns just by opening the body up stretching incorporating the breath

45:36

increasing some blood flow you going to sleep better because of that so and that's a very another another simple

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practical tip and I guess the last one and I keep coming back to this because it is so huge in North America is if

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you're eing a a a diet that is heavily um invested in um alter processed foods

45:54

you're really impacting negatively on not only whole body but also on the fashion yeah I completely agree with you

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I think that if you to take out um alcohol and take out processed sugars and refined seed oils and first thing in

46:10

the morning rehydrate your body and REM mineral remineralize your body you're

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going to notice significant significant impacts right away whether that's better sleep better

46:21

energy better digestion just like yeah all all over the map you're going to experience Better Health um that's

46:28

awesome Cameron I don't know is is there one particular takeaway about fascia and its role in in our health that you maybe

46:35

want our listeners to to remember yeah uh I guess the one takeaway would be that fascia is in

46:42

involved in every single thing that you're doing uh and if you are not happy with how you're doing your life there's

46:50

pain there's discomfort there's incoordination there's U lopsidedness there's anything that you're not happy

46:55

with how you use your body or how much energy you have at the end of the day or lack of energy at the end of the day

47:01

then you've really got to start looking at your fascia as part of an overall holistic approach and there are some

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really good like I mentioned earlier some good practitioners structural integration is one type of uh therapy

47:12

and then there's also ralphing um those are the two kind of branches of fasal workers uh and many massage therapists

47:20

um an osteopathic myself um we're all trained in fashional work as well I don't approach it the same way in that

47:26

sort of systemic uh systematic stepping way that um structural integration practitioners do um but I still work on

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the FIA throughout the entire body so again look find somebody who can also do

47:38

that kind of work for you as well and you'll have a much more comprehensive approach amazing Cameron thank you so

47:44

much and um if you want to connect with Cameron I'll I'll leave links in the show notes but it's Coastal integrated

47:57

fasal work should be a foundational part of Everybody's Health and on Cameron's

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website which you can hit the link in the show notes he's got some amazing courses um about how you can improve

48:10

your immunity improve your sleep uh there there's a women and men's fertility course on there as well and

48:15

it's all very simple um habitual foundational things that you can do to

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improve those parts of your life and um I think that's very very important to

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to highlight is just those foundational pieces which are often very cheap very

48:32

simple um can have radical changes within your life for the better so I'll

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leave a link there that you can check more of that out but I know Cameron's got some amazing um uh

48:44

online uh educational resources that you can go in there and check that and also from that that link you can connect with

48:50

Cameron as well if you've got any further questions I know he'd be more than delighted to talk about it with you and I make sure that we get those links

48:57

to some of those individuals Tom Myers for example um if you want to extend

49:02

your understanding of fasal work and I think that's I'm I'm G to do that personally because I think it's a very

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important part that's missing in uh everybody's life aged

49:14

beautiful thank you sorry yeah I was just gonna just gonna close out there but you did it beautifully for me but thank you again Cameron for coming on to

49:20

the show I really appreciate it um that is it for this episode of True Hope cast the official podcast of true hope Canada

49:26

want to thank Cameron for coming back on the show I think this might be his third time on true Hope cast which is absolutely fantastic um another

49:33

incredible topic I think fash is so important I'm lucky we' got to learn a lot about it today but yeah everything

49:40

you need to know is in the show notes if you want to connect through any more resources that is it for this week we'll see you soon

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